The next meeting will be held November 22 to 23 at the Hampton Inn in Seaside, CA. (see [6] for details). The TC will conduct most of its business on the ansforth mail-list (see [3] for details).
<file://ftp.uu.net/vendor/minerva/uathena.htm>The NCITS (National Committee for Information Technology Standards) keeps an official web site at:
<http://www.ncits.org/tc_home/j14.htm>
<comp.lang.forth>A separate mail list has been established for more formal announcements, comments, and questions. All mail sent to this mail list will be distributed to all subscribers (including all members of the Technical Committee) and archived for further reference. Mail should be sent to:
<ansforth@minerva.com>Subscription and unsubscription request should be sent to:
<ansforth-request@minerva.com>
Global Engineering Documents, Inc.The final draft of the standard is available from Greg Bailey's ANS Forth web page.
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Note the c & d were requested by the ISO FastTrack process. The committee is not obligated to consider proposals falling outside this agenda without first voting to extend it. This requires a 2/3 vote of the Committee.
June, coinciding with the Forth Institute's meeting.Members of the TC are required to attend one in every three meetings. The meetings have been arranged such that attending one a year is sufficient to retain membership of the Technical Committee.November, coinciding with the FORML meeting.
The following meetings have been arranged:
- 22-23 November '99
- Hampton Inn, Seaside, CA
To coincide with the Forth Modification Laboratory. Note that this is expected to be the final meeting.
After this a formal proposal must be drafted and submitted to electronically by sending plain (7-bit ASCII) text or Word files to the Chair at <j14-chairs@minerva.com>. You may also submit a proposal via mail by sending it to:
J14 Technical Committee,All proposals must conform to the following criteria:
c/o FORTH, Inc.,
111 N. Sepulveda Blvd,
Manhattan Beach,
CA 90266, USA;
Bad form: Add DEFER and IS
Good form: Add the following to the {specified} wordset:
{specific definitions, edited so as to be readily pasted into
the document in the right place}
We suggest proposals should provide information in the following headings:
The proposal must be submitted to the Chair with a message indicating that it is a formal proposal for the consideration of the committee.
Upon receipt, the proposal will be examined by the committee chairs. If, in their opinion, it meets the above criteria it will be assigned a proposal number and circulated to the members of the committee for their consideration. It is also posed on the ANS Forth web site. If, in the opinion of the chairs, the document does not meet the criteria they will discuss possible changes with the author that will improve it to the point where it can be accepted. Rejection by the chairs can be appealed to the committee. The committee can overrule the chair's decision by an 80% vote of those voting, provided the total vote constitutes a quorum of the voting membership of the committee.
Further processing of the proposal will occur after receipt of a second to the proposal from a member other than the proposal originator. The second must be posted to the ANS Floor. After a period of time not less than one week the chair may, at its discretion, declare that the proposal had died for lack of a second and remove the proposal from active consideration.
After a proposal has been seconded the author may make further revisions until the end of the comment period. Others wishing to have the proposal modified should first discuss the proposed changes with the author and on the ANS Forth maillist. If the author does not accept the changes and the person offering the changes wishes to have the committee take formal action on them, the changes should be submitted to the Chairs as a formal amendment to the proposal. The chairs will publish notice of having received the proposed amendments, they will be posted to the FTP site, and there will be a period of one week during which any voting member of the committee can offer a second to the proposed amendment. Upon receipt of a second there will be a period of two weeks at the end of which the amendment will be either accepted or rejected by a majority vote of those voting on the amendment.
<ftp://ftp.minerva.com/pub/x3j14/misc/j14-mem.htm>The list of TC Officers is available at the bottom of the J14 Current work page at:
<ftp://ftp.minerva.com/pub/x3j14/j14-cur.htm>
While the committee is active (from now, until the committee finishes its work and deactivates again) prospective members should attend at least two out of three successive meetings. A representative shall attend the first of these meetings as an observer and reaffirm interest in the work of the committee. Membership becomes effective with attendance at one of the next two successive meetings and the payment of a $300 administration fee. Membership shall be terminated under the following conditions:
When the committee deactivates again (after it has completed its current work) applications for membership should be sent to the Chair <j14-chairs@minerva.com>. Membership becomes effective after the first letter (eMail) ballot. Members will lose their membership by failure to respond to three successive ballots, or failure to pay any service fee within the specified period.
The Technical Committee receive a number of proposals to change the text of the ANS Forth document, which they will vote on. When the TC are happy with the revised document it is published as a draft report for public comment. The TC must then review the comments and either publish a new draft or submit the draft for approval by the NCITS. It can take a year between the TC submitting a draft for approval and the standard being published.
For ISO to adopt the ANS Forth standard requires a two-thirds majority of ISO voting members. All no votes are supported by technical comment.